Chris Timmerman is a neuroscientist with a deep interest in phenomenology—what’s actually happening in our minds during psychedelic experiences. He leads the DMT Research Group at Imperial College, where he’s found that a single psychedelic experience can transform a person’s belief system, often turning materialists into panpsychists. In this wide-ranging conversation, Steve talks with Chris about everything from fractals and ayahuasca ceremonies to whether scientists who study psychedelics should talk openly about their own experiences.

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00:00:00 Introduction
00:06:40 Why Study Non-Ordinary States
00:16:05 What DMT Does to the Brain
00:29:15 Entities and Scientific Caution
00:49:40 The Questions Still Open

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