Mo Al Adham is the founder and CEO of Frec, a brokerage platform he describes as "brokerage 2.0" — building on core trading primitives to offer more sophisticated strategies like direct indexing, long-short direct indexing, and options overlays. Before Frec, Mo co-founded Twitvid, an early video-for-Twitter startup, and later spent five years at Twitter. He founded Frec in 2021 and launched the product in October 2023.
What you'll learn:
- Why the $1-30M wealth segment — about 10 million US households — controls 40% of all investable wealth in the country, and why it's the fastest-growing segment
- How direct indexing creates "tax alpha" by harvesting capital losses, and why that's a deferral of taxes rather than an elimination of them
- How a step-up in cost basis at death effectively forgives the deferred tax bill
- The concrete numbers: how much a $100k investment can harvest in losses via a classic direct index versus a long-short direct index
- Why long-term, sophisticated investors have proven far less fee-sensitive than the market assumes
- Mo's path from Twitvid — an early video app built on top of Twitter — to five years working inside Twitter itself
- How a frustrating experience with a wealth manager who charged 1% fees for little added value planted the idea for Frec
- Why Mo's six months of "top-down" market research largely failed, and why a "bottoms-up" approach — starting from what he actually cared about — led him to Frec
- Why Frec had to resequence its roadmap when rising interest rates undercut its original plan to lead with a cheap line-of-credit product
- Immad's framework for company OKRs (which he calls "COR") and why he insists on including non-measurable results
- Why Frec has deliberately stayed out of banking, unlike some robo-advisor competitors
- Mo and Immad's picks for financial products that should already be obsolete
Chapters:
(00:00) The $1-30M wealth segment and why it holds 40% of US investable wealth
(01:03) Introducing Mo Al Adham and Frec, "brokerage 2.0"
(02:07) Targeting sophisticated investors vs. democratizing access
(03:12) Why long-term investors are stickier and less fee-sensitive than assumed
(07:08) Tax alpha explained: deferral vs. elimination
(09:20) How direct indexing lowers cost basis through loss harvesting
(12:45) Long-short direct index and portfolio tilts
(14:16) Mo's first startup, Twitvid, and getting outpaced by Twitter
(16:29) The wealth manager experience that inspired Frec
(19:49) Vetting the idea: six months of top-down research that failed
(22:18) Switching to a bottoms-up approach and finding conviction
(30:39) Immad's approach to OKRs, called "COR"
(36:24) Frec's pivot from lending to investing as rates rose
(52:16) Rapid fire: AI in fintech, obsolete products, and more