In this episode Matt speaks with Dr Luke Martin, clinical psychologist, co-founder of Prevention United, and now Clinical Spokesperson and Senior Specialist at Beyond Blue. Matt puts aquestion to him that plenty of people in the sector have quietly (or loudly) asked: what has Beyond Blue actually achieved in 25 years?


What follows is a genuinely useful conversation about awareness, prevention, concept creep, and what amentally healthy society would need to look like.

What we cover

  • The Kids Matter project and what happens when you askwhat good looks like in a school
  • What Beyond Blue actually does, beyond the awarenesscampaigns people remember
  • What the independent 25-year review found about mentalhealth literacy, stigma and help seeking in Australia
  • Why awareness was never the finish line, and the leakyroof problem
  • The 12 year gap between people's first symptoms andasking for help
  • What the new CSIRO report says about the four futuresAustralia could end up in
  • Concept creep, identity labels, and taking people'sdistress seriously without taking it literally
  • Where wellbeing promotion fits, and why everybodystaying in their lane only works if the lanes connect


Chapters

03:23 From clinical practice toKids Matter and Prevention United

11:16 What has Beyond Blueactually achieved in 25 years?

25:39 Awareness isn't the finishline

31:33 The next 25 years, and therisk of medicalising everyday life

42:57 Promotion, prevention, andwho else needs to play a part

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