Have you ever heard the expression "don't meet your heroes"? Well, it's complete nonsense. We had the absolute honor of having Ryan join us for a conversation and can confirm that he is just an incredible dude. 

We hope you enjoy our wide-ranging discussion, navigating life's big questions like what it's like to write as a new parent, how art can create community, and whether or not a hot dog is a sandwich (spoiler: it's not). 

Please tune in for the rest of our coverage of The Bound and the Broken and write in with any comments at booktwoisbetter@gmail.com, or find us on Reddit/Discord @booktwoisbetter! 

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