In today's episode Roland-Philippe Kretzschmar meets with design legend Michele De Lucchi.


Born an identical twin, he grew up being treated, as he remembers it, almost as half of the same child. At 18, the brothers chose different disciplines, different cities and different appearances. His brother shaved; Michele grew the beard that has stayed with him ever since.


“When you design something, you have to create an identity.”


It is a wonderfully disarming beginning to a conversation with someone whose career runs through more than five decades of Italian architecture and design: Alchimia, Memphis, Olivetti, the Tolomeo lamp, major buildings, interiors, furniture, drawing, painting and sculpture. Yet I became less interested in making him recite that history than in understanding the person who has continued to question what design is for.


De Lucchi speaks about objects as carriers of memory. His father appeared able to “listen” to a glass, a watch or a building and understand who made it, where and when. Function was never the whole story. Materials could hold a narrative; architecture could shape the life unfolding inside it.


When I told him that his work makes me happy, he answered that it was the most beautiful compliment I could give him.

“We don’t need pessimistic architects and designers because we don’t need a pessimistic future.”


That may be the key to Michele De Lucchi. Radicalism, for him, is not a colour palette or a historical style. It is the courage to resist convention, grasp the energy of one’s own time and give form to a future worth entering.


In the full episode, we travel from 1970s Florence to Olivetti and the beginnings of Memphis, but also into far more personal territory: his twin brother, Ettore Sottsass, a journey around the world, fashion, serendipity, meditation, AI and the unknown. Some stories are far better heard in his own voice, and I will not give them away here.


Several of his designs will also appear in Radical Rooms, the exhibition I am curating for Mankovsky Gallery in Stockholm this August, bringing radical Italian design into conversation with contemporary painting.

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