In this episode, Megan and Frank discuss the secret CIA mind control program known as MKUltra. Is mind control really possible? What ethical norms should govern human subjects research? And should those rules be flexible in the face of an existential threat?

To investigate some of these questions, this episode contains a guest interview with Dr. Justin Bernstein (University of Virginia). Dr. Bernstein joins the podcast to discuss questions relating to research ethics, the relationship between politics and morality, and trust in public health institutions. 

Hosts' Websites:

Megan J Fritts (google.com)

Frank J. Cabrera (google.com)

Email: philosophyonthefringes@gmail.com

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Bibliography:

John Lisle, "Project Mind Control: Sidney Gottlieb, the CIA, and the Tragedy of MKULTRA" (St. Martin's Press, 2025)

Reciprocity, Vulnerability, and the Moral Significance of Herd Immunity - Bernstein - 2023 - Journal of Applied Philosophy

Interim Framework for COVID-19 Vaccine Allocation and Distribution in the United States

Justin Bernstein, Athmeya Jayaram & Brian Hutler, Assessing The Liberty-Based Case Against Pandemic Lockdowns - PhilPapers

Building trust while influencing online COVID-19 content in the social media world - PMC

Political Realism | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy

We Built Reality - Hardcover - Jason Blakely - Oxford University Press

Machiavelli - The Prince | Project Gutenberg

Rawls - A Theory of Justice: Revised Edition

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Cover Artwork by Logan Fritts

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Music from #Uppbeat (free for Creators!):

https://uppbeat.io/t/simon-folwar/neon-signs

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