LADIES LADIES LADIES....we are blessed today because we get to spend one hour bullying a...duh duh duhhhhh - conductor. We brought on our dear friend, conductor/composer/quadruple-threat Ben Sellick. He has known us for six years and never once listened to our podcast. In thia episode, we force Ben to publicly renounce Juilliard, run through a Conducting Final Boss bracket (Bugs Bunny vs. Kirill Petrenko), unpack a listener gig horror story and conduct Beethoven 5 the only way we know how: with Boys Funky Jazz 2 energy. It was great playing with you!

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