In this powerful episode of Energy Medicine, Dr. Mary sits down with Stephan Kerby, co-founder of the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute, to explore the evolving world of trauma-informed 5-MeO-DMT facilitation, nervous system regulation, ethical psychedelic practice, and long-term integration.


Stephan shares how 5-MeO-DMT differs significantly from traditional DMT experiences and why profound nondual states require careful preparation, skilled facilitation, and structured integration to support sustainable healing and transformation.


Together, they discuss nervous system literacy, ethical standards in facilitator training, integration science, and how expanded states of consciousness can become catalysts for meaningful behavioral change rather than temporary peak experiences.


In This Episode, You’ll Discover

  • Why 5-MeO-DMT requires a distinct facilitation framework


  • The difference between trauma-informed 5-MeO-DMT and traditional DMT approaches


  • How nervous system dysregulation can occur after nondual experiences


  • The importance of preparation, containment, and long-term integration


  • What ethical psychedelic facilitation looks like in practice


  • Why professional standards and accountability matter in the psychedelic field


  • Practical strategies for embodying transformational experiences in daily life


  • How the Embodiment Protocol supports sustainable behavioral change


About Stephan Kerby


Stephan Kerby is the co-founder of the Mindscape Psychedelic Institute and a leading educator in trauma-informed 5-MeO-DMT facilitation. Alongside his wife, Amber Kerby, LMFT, he co-authored the Trauma-Informed 5-MeO-DMT Facilitation Manual and the Embodiment Protocol, frameworks designed to support preparation, nervous system literacy, ethical facilitation, and sustainable integration.

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