Live from the UA Instructor Training Program, we chat with Joe Fernandez Jr. about the trade that's increasingly overlapping with HVAC: plumbing. We dig into how heat pump water heaters are reshaping expectations for both plumbers and HVAC techs, and why education and service are driving the transition.

We explore:

• Why heat pump water heaters are already the norm overseas and gaining ground in the U.S.

• The consumer pushback around upfront cost, and how technicians can educate customers

• How building a plumbing service program from the ground up transformed one UA local from 5% to over 40% service work

• Why service work is recession-resistant, and how the 2008 downturn and COVID-19 reshaped training priorities

• The growing emphasis on soft skills and customer communication alongside technical training

• How the UA is expanding curriculum with branch classes for specialized service skills

Joe shares hard-won lessons from over 30 years in the trade, including how his local rebuilt around service work after the 2008 crash and why "getting comfortable with being uncomfortable" has become a guiding philosophy for training the next generation. Whether you're a contractor, instructor or technician navigating the shift toward electrification and service-based work, this episode offers practical insight into where the trades are headed.

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