One of my dearest friends in music came over to the house. 🖤
MOD SUN joined me for one of the most honest conversations we've ever had about sobriety, heartbreak, purpose, creativity, healing, and why he believes he's entering the greatest chapter of his life.
We dive deep into his incredible new album, how Nashville completely changed his creative process, making music inspired by Bob Dylan, collaborating with Chris Carrabba, his friendship with Machine Gun Kelly, becoming sober, finding peace after heartbreak, and why he finally feels like he's made the quintessential MOD SUN album.
We also talk about:
⚡️ Warped Tour memories and how our friendship began
⚡️ Life after heartbreak and finding a new purpose
⚡️ Why Bob Dylan inspired this new chapter
⚡️ Creating the "quintessential" MOD SUN album
⚡️ Why Nashville changed everything
⚡️ Working with Chris Carrabba on "Danger"
⚡️ Using songwriting as therapy
⚡️ Relationships, love, and wanting to become a father
⚡️ Looking back on his dad and the lessons he carries today
⚡️ His sobriety journey, overdose, and rock bottom
⚡️ Learning to become a better person
⚡️ Regrets, perspective, and living without fear
⚡️ Making peace with his past, including Avril Lavigne
⚡️ Defining success beyond fame and money
⚡️ His lifelong brotherhood with Machine Gun Kelly
⚡️ Why rock music is entering an exciting new era
⚡️ The songs, albums, and artists that changed his life
⚡️ Advice for staying present and living with purpose
Plus: oatmeal cookies, Shirley Temples, vintage barware, brownies, banana hammocks, and plenty of laughs along the way.
If you're a longtime MOD SUN fan or simply love conversations about music, resilience, creativity, recovery, and finding your purpose, this one is for you.
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00:00 - Intro
01:51 - Cookies, Shirley Temples & Brian
05:00 - Connecting at Warped Tour & Friendship Origins
06:30 - How Are You Feeling?
09:12 - New Music & Life After Heartbreak
12:54 - Making Music Like Bob Dylan
17:00 - The Quintessential MOD SUN Album
19:32 - Why Nashville Changed Everything
22:37 - "Danger" with Chris Carrabba
32:32 - Music as Therapy
33:43 - Relationships, Love & Wanting to Be a Dad
36:53 - Looking Back at His Father
39:14 - Sobriety, Rock Bottom & Second Chances
41:53 - Becoming a Better Person
46:09 - Living Without Regrets
48:18 - Making Peace with Avril Lavigne
49:20 - What Success Really Means
52:14 - The Brotherhood with Machine Gun Kelly
57:30 - Why Rock Music Is Changing
59:56 - Deep Cuts
1:10:21 - Outro
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