He’s Indonesia’s hard man of politics - Prabowo Subianto is a former military leader who stands accused of human rights abuses. But in the latest election campaign he pitched himself as a cute, dancing Grandpa.

Now he’s the country’s newest president. So, what kind of leader will he be?

Guests:

  • Yoes Kenawas - Research Fellow at the Atma Jaya Catholic University in Jakarta 

  • Dr Jemma Purdey - Fellow at the Australia-Indonesia Centre at Monash University 

  • Geoff Thompson - Former ABC foreign correspondent 

Producers: Zoe Ferguson and Linda Lopresti 

Executive Producer: Amruta Slee 

Sound Engineer: John Jacobs 

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