Climate experts have spent decades getting the evidence right, but many still can't explain their work at their own dinner table. Better information was supposed to move the world. Instead, it’s built an echo chamber.

In this episode, Christa Beck and Seth Armstrong-Twigg are joined by Leo Horn-Phathanothai, founder of Bangkok Climate Action Week. After more than 20 years working in climate policy and research, Leo began questioning whether better information alone was enough to drive change. His answer is radical inclusion – or, creating space for artists, youth, indigenous leaders and others outside the traditional climate bubble to reclaim their agency and an active role in the movement. 

We also cover:

  • Why the region’s young population creates a powerful opportunity for people-powered climate action

  • How one energy expert had his first climate conversation with his family in 20 years, through his wife's art collective and his son's school

  • Why Southeast Asia's energy transition is moving forward on pure economics while global headlines report a retreat

  • How Bangkok Climate Action Week connects grassroots climate action with the World Bank and IMF meetings

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