Struggling with stubborn biotoxin illness (CIRS) and feeling stuck in your recovery? In this episode, we break down some of the most important (and often overlooked) steps in the Shoemaker Protocol, including binders, MARCoNS treatment, and gut support. Learn how binders like cholestyramine and Welchol work differently to remove biotoxins, why the wrong detox approach can trigger setbacks, and how to track your progress with tools like the Visual Contrast Sensitivity (VCS) test. We also dive into MARCoNS: why it's so common in CIRS patients, how it impacts MSH and overall health, and the treatment options available, from prescription nasal sprays to over-the-counter approaches. Plus, we discuss biofilms, reinfection risks, pet testing, and practical strategies for breaking the cycle. Whether you're just getting started or looking to optimize your treatment plan, this episode will help you better understand the next critical steps in recovering from CIRS and mold-related illness. None of this is medical advice: always consult your CIRS practitioner for what treatment is right for you.
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TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - Introduction & Recap
02:54 - Why phase three is the most anticipated part of recovery
03:26 - The most effective binders for detoxification: Cholestyramine and Welchol
06:00 - Over-the-counter binder options: Mycobind and Chitosan
07:05 - The importance of using the correctly charged binders
09:21 - Visual Contrast Sensitivity test: tracking biotoxin effects
13:00 - Treating MARCoNs: nasal testing, nasal sprays, and herbal options
14:15 - Cycle of MARCoNs and MSH depletion
16:19 - Nasal testing resources and nasal spray treatments (EDTA, BEG spray, X Lear)
17:35 - Testing the nasal biome with Sinus Key
19:14 - Impact of diet, microbiome, and specific food sensitivities on gut healing
25:14 - Supporting detox through bowel movements with magnesium
26:26 - The importance of sequencing treatment steps for optimum results
27:23 - Encouragement to stay on track, subscribe, and support the channel
For more information and support, join us at https://thecirsgroup.com
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE:
Our Binders episode: https://youtu.be/KAQfLXuPjFI?si=TcJo-YDEjVLNInqW
Visual Contrast Sensitivity (VCS) test options:
https://www.vcstest.com/
https://www.survivingmold.com/store/online-vcs-screening
https://beyondmold.com/product/visual-contrast-sensitivity-test/
MARCoNs test: https://www.microbiologydx.com/order-collection-kits
SinusKey test: https://patients.microgendx.com/products/sinuskey
Actinos episode where we reference the SinusKey: https://youtu.be/2rCXhUP6dbY?si=MBT7_esd0edmfhCX
Dr. Christian Navarro Torres' website to book a consult: https://www.cirslab.com/
Dr. Andrea Jordheim's website to work with her: https://mytransformationwellness.com/
Our interview with Dr. Lacey Venanzi: https://youtu.be/baldT8N7nl4?si=wExZGivhkEALSR4O
Our second interview with Dr. Lacey: https://youtu.be/7H6CKEhIMSU?si=WrMPttnfyRq2aMvC
Dr. Lacey's website to work with her: https://www.drlacey.org/
Order Jacie's book! The 30 Day Carnivore Bootcamp: https://a.co/d/7MgHrRs
The CIRS Group:
Support Community: https://thecirsgroup.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thecirsgroup/
Find Jacie for carnivore, lifestyle and limbic resources:
Jacie’s book on the Carnivore diet! https://a.co/d/8ZKCqz0
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ladycarnivory
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@LadyCarnivory
Blog: https://www.ladycarnivory.com/
Find Barbara for business/finance tips and coaching:
Website: https://www.actlikebarbara.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/actlikebarbara/
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@actlikebarbara
Jacie is a Shoemaker certified Proficiency Partner, NASM certified nutrition coach, author, and carnivore recipe developer determined to share the life changing information of carnivore and CIRS to anyone who will listen. Barbara is a business and fitness coach, CIRS and ADHD advocate, writer, speaker, and a big fan of health and freedom. Together, they co-founded The CIRS Group, an online support community to help people that are struggling with their CIRS diagnosis and treatment.
