On this week’s episode of The Ultimate Assist, John Stockton and Ken Ruettgers welcome back epidemiologist Nicolas Hulscher, MPH, for a provocative conversation about childhood vaccines, vaccinated-versus-unvaccinated health outcomes, MMR, mRNA technology, cancer, myocarditis, and the future of vaccine policy in America.
Nicolas returns to the show with new research and some controversial conclusions.
At the center of the conversation is a retrospective analysis of medical records from children within the Henry Ford Health system. Hulscher argues that the data raise serious questions about differences in chronic-disease diagnoses between vaccinated and unvaccinated children and says the findings warrant much greater scrutiny of the childhood vaccine schedule.
John and Ken challenge Nicolas on what those findings mean for parents. Are the apparent differences actually caused by vaccination? What are the tradeoffs of foregoing vaccines against diseases such as measles, mumps and polio? And has enough high-quality research been conducted to give parents the answers they deserve? Hulscher argues that current evidence warrants far greater caution, while acknowledging at points that some disease-specific associations cannot yet be established with certainty.
The conversation gets even more controversial when Nicolas discusses what he calls “turbo cancer.” He describes research he believes points toward unusually aggressive cancers following COVID-19 vaccination and lays out proposed biological mechanisms involving mRNA technology and spike-protein production. These interpretations remain contested, but Hulscher argues that the signals deserve much more investigation rather than dismissal.
John, Ken and Nicolas also explore:
- Vaccinated versus unvaccinated health outcomes
- Why Nicolas is particularly concerned about the MMR vaccine
- Whether the childhood vaccine schedule has been adequately studied as a whole
- Myocarditis and neurological adverse events
- The debate surrounding “turbo cancers”
- How long vaccine-derived material may persist in the body
- Whether mRNA technology should continue to be developed
- What Nicolas believes regulators are getting wrong
- Why he says he’s more concerned today than he was during his first appearance
Toward the end of the episode, Nicolas discusses ongoing research into spike-protein reduction and proposed studies involving repurposed drugs in cancer patients, before explaining why he believes emerging biotechnology deserves far greater public scrutiny.
In rapid fire, Nicolas doesn’t hedge when John asks which vaccine is most misunderstood:
“All of them.”
And when asked whether mRNA technology should be studied harder or abandoned, his answer is equally unequivocal:
Abandon it.
Whether you agree with his conclusions or strongly disagree, this episode asks questions that Nicolas Hulscher believes parents, physicians, researchers and regulators should be willing to confront.
🎙️ Episode #88: Are Vaccinated Children Really Healthier? — Nicolas Hulscher Returns
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