How do you decide when it's the right time to make a change in your career? Charlie discusses his transition from Ogilvy to Publicis after 17 years, emphasizing the importance of growth and learning outside one's comfort zone. Susan shares her journey from focusing on great work to nurturing great people, highlighting the crucial role of creativity and partnership in the advertising industry. Plus, hear about Charlie’s experience crafting the social-first ad campaign in the run-up to Cera Ve’s Superbowl commercial starring Michael Cera, and Susan’s work rebranding the M&M’s characters.

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