For this episode of the SUX Podcast we were joined by Hannah Smith, who is the Director of Operations of the Green Web Foundation. We spoke about how to make the web fossil free until 2030, if we are on track here and how Designers, Developers and all professions need to join to work towards this goal. But we also spoke about the role of AI in all this and how our use of tech in the northern/western world creates a lot of injustice because of our massive overconsumption of energy. And we dived into AI and the problems that come with it - ecologically as well as socially. 


We spoke about the need of Narrative shifts and what every one of us can do about it and we discussed we not only need to learn but also unlearn frequently.


Like Thorsten, Hannah is loving the outdoors and is trying to do all her travels by train, so we also spoke a little bit about the greatest train travels and our longest trips. And Hannah started a new tradition on the podcast by beginning to ask questions to Thorsten on her own. 


So, if you want to here more about how to get to a fossil free internet, about the role of AI in it and why we need to question it more, but also about beautiful train trips and what Hannah does to re-energize in bad moments, do not hesitate to tune in to this episode of the SUX Podcast.


Connect with our guest or us:


Hannah’s Channels:

Hannah’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hanopcan/ 

Green Web Foundation: http://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/

Green Tech South West: https://greentechsouthwest.org/


Sources from the episode:

Branch Magazine: https://branch.climateaction.tech/ 

Green Web Foundation: http://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/

Green Web Check Service of Green Web Foundation: https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/green-web-check/ 

CO2.js: https://www.thegreenwebfoundation.org/co2-js/ 

UX Connect Aarhus: https://www.boye-co.com/conferences/uxconnect24 



Our Channels:

Bavo's Linkedin 

Thorsten's LinkedIn 

Isabel's LinkedIn 


SUX Slack Community 

SUX LinkedIn 

SUX Website


Email us at podcast@sustainableuxnetwork.com to share your feedback or suggest future guests.

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