On the latest episode of Salt Lake Dirt, Kyler reconnects with author Elizabeth Ellen. Following up on their previous discussion about her novel American Thighs (available here), the two discuss her play Exit, Carefully—tracing its roots back to a chaotic family Christmas Eve and its path from a college short story to publication. Elizabeth also candidly reflects on navigating literary cancellations, stepping into the publisher role at Hobart, and preparing for her appearance on The Bret Easton Ellis Podcast. Beyond their conversation on Substack and the shifts within contemporary indie publishing, Elizabeth has a major project underway: she is currently publishing real-time chapters of her memoir in progress, I MARRIED A SEX ADDICT/I AM A SEX ADDICT, directly to her Substack page.
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