Mid-season bonus! We sat down with Jerry Wanek, production designer, later producer and director on Supernatural, and the guy behind basically every set you've ever paused the screen to stare at. 

We get into how a $35-a-day PA fetching Ronald McDonald's coffee ended up building the Men of Letters bunker, the real story behind that telescope, the Eric Kripke love-fest, a finally-answered fan debate about the dungeon devil's trap floor, the legend of "mud flap girls," the disco motel reveal that had the boys dancing on the beds, hidden sigils we never noticed, and one extremely chaotic Friday night involving Jared and a vintage Buick.

Jerry was generous, funny, and an absolute joy. Let us know which detail blew your mind most, and we'll be back soon with the second half of Season 9. Cheers! 🥂

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