Legendary podcaster and founder of Maximum Fun Jesse Thorn joins Ash and Brandon for summer speedruns, a Def Jam: Vendetta update, and the besta Bethesda. Hosted by Alex Jaffe, with Ash Parrish, Brandon Sheffield, and Jesse Thorn. Edited by Esper Quinn, original music by Kurt Feldman.

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SHOW NOTES:

1: What’s going on with speedrunning lately? (04:30)

2: How are old bad games bad differently from how new bad games are bad? (11:32)

3: Design a new Def Jam fighting game for 2026 (17:11)

4: Are video games artsy? (25:27)

5: LeFish asks, would you rather live one year of your life with big head mode, loudly speak like a Mario, or only be able to walk like you’re tank controlled? (34:07)

6: What’s the best-a Bethesda? (43:27)

LIGHTNING ROUND: Equip This On (56:33)

Recommendations and Outro (01:21:18):

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