Landon and Christopher discuss the value and limitations of self-expression in artmaking, a topic which leads to meditations on reading “Moby Dick” to toddlers; the transcendent potential of bodega runs; the true meaning of the DIY ethos; the “lyrics or instrumental?” dilemma in songwriting; the role of self-reference in texts by Sontag, Hickey, and Schjeldahl; and formative lessons learned through teenage immersions in suburban punk scenes. 

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