Sven chats with Debra Wagner, a therapist who, like Sven, uses her experiences to help others. And what a story she has. Deb had a childhood riddled with sexual, verbal, emotional, and physical abuse. Over time, she learned to get to the "why," and free herself from the shame she felt all her life. Sven explores concept of hate with Deb in detail, and provides some interesting insight as the two professionals learn from each other. Explicit content.

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