How do we raise children who are compassionate, courageous, and prepared to make the world better than they found it?
In Part 2 of Katia Lindor's conversation with award-winning journalist and creator Garrison Hayes, the discussion turns to one of parenting's greatest responsibilities: the values we model every day. Together, they explore raising boys in the age of social media, confronting harmful ideas about masculinity, and why emotional vulnerability may be one of the greatest gifts a father can give his son.
Katia and Garrison also reflect on the fears that come with parenting in today's political climate, the importance of teaching history, the power of representation, and why hope is an act of courage. Throughout the conversation, they remind us that children don't just learn from what we tell them—they learn from who they see us become.
Whether you're raising sons, daughters, or simply trying to become the kind of adult you hope your children emulate, this episode is an invitation to lead with compassion, intention, and hope.
00:00 - Garryson Hayes (Part 2) 01:19 - Parenting between love and fear 03:06 - Our grandparents survived worse 04:52 - Why they're erasing history 06:35 - "Peculiar institution" 09:20 - Raising a Black boy in America 10:25 - Lessons from Garrison's father 11:40 - Making sure your son sees himself everywhere 15:18 - How do you keep them from Andrew Tate? 16:46 - 2 clicks from the manosphere 17:46 - Now I'm a boy mom and it terrifies me 18:08 - Why aren't we raising better boys? 21:02 - How fatherhood changed masculinity 23:05 - The performance of masculinity is exhausting 25:00 - Redefining vulnerability as strength 25:52 - Rapid fire questions 28:09 - Where to find Garrison Hayes
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