In the eighth episode of ITLSSS, Jason and Max explore the world of Johnny Carson with their guest Mark Malkoff. Then Jason and Max break down Out of the Loop, in which Larry decides to clean up all the spilled tea in the office. And they ask the vital question: was that really Jeremy Piven's butt?


Mark Malkoff is a podcaster and comedian. His show The Carson Podcast, an in-depth look at the history of the The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson featuring interviews with countless people involved with the show has aired since 2014.


Out of the Loop
Originally aired: October 3, 1992
Written by: Marjorie Gross
Directed by: Ken Kwapis
Production Number: 107

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