Ben Schilaty is a gay, active Latter-day Saint, a social work professor at UVU, a therapist, and the author of A Walk in My Shoes. Jules and Ashton sit down with him to talk about coming out while staying in the church, why "the rules are the same" for gay and straight single members misses the point, what church leaders actually need to know, and why the most helpful thing you can say to someone who's struggling is "tell me more." Plus social safety, coming home early from a mission, and what it looks like to hold up the welcome home sign for the people you love.


Ben's Gather conference for LGBTQ Latter-day Saints and those who love them is November 13-14 in Provo. Details at liftandlove.org


Buy Ben's Book "A Walk in My Shoes" here: https://www.deseretbook.com/product/P5246287.html?srsltid=AYCX9vK12TcNcVw5NZguxC4SBLbC6gX-JhjRlE_o1xXwYzwTkd_Fllzlhttps://a.co/d/04gblYEi


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