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#421 Chris Whalen: Double-Digit Inflation, Falling Home Prices & a Fed Forced to Hike

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In this week's episode of The Wrap with Chris Whalen, Julia and Chris start with President Trump’s $5,000 cash dividend promise, which Whalen calls “bread and circuses,” and why affordability, driven by gasoline and diesel prices tied to the war with Iran, could deliver a 50-seat House swing to Democrats. Whalen says we’re already on a double-digit inflation path, points to September’s PPI as the highest since late 2022, and argues the Fed may be forced to hike before the midterms, possibly over Chairman Warsh’s objection. Fresh from the Mortgage Bankers Association conference in Chicago, he shares why industry insiders like Stan Middleman expect home prices to soften 5–10% over the next three years, how construction costs are putting a floor under prices, and why layoffs are hitting mortgage lenders and realtors. He also covers United Wholesale Mortgage, bank earnings (JPMorgan’s miss and Bank of America’s record $1.5 billion OCC fine), and why he sees the AI trade as circular finance heading for a reset. They close with viewer questions on banks holding low-coupon COVID-era mortgages and the outlook for Annaly.


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Timestamps:

00:00 Intro and welcome back

00:43 Trump’s $5,000 dividend promise: “bread and circuses”

02:54 Could Democrats see a 50-seat House swing?

03:16 Affordability as the top issue: gas, diesel and the Iran war

07:16 Are we on a double-digit inflation path?

08:28 Fed hike ahead? Yellen says “transitory” again

09:44 Demand destruction, fertilizer and food prices

11:31 Takeaways from the Mortgage Bankers Association conference

13:33 Stan Middleman’s outlook: smaller price reset than expected

15:24 Construction costs and replacement value as a price floor

17:13 Will the Fed hike before the midterms? Warsh, Lisa Cook and the Supreme Court

18:57 The mood in mortgage: layoffs and a tougher 2027

20:36 Is there a bull case for United Wholesale Mortgage?

21:58 Bank earnings: JPMorgan’s miss and Bank of America’s $1.5B fine

24:36 The AI reset and circular finance

26:59 Viewer question: banks holding low-rate COVID mortgages

29:55 Viewer question: the outlook for Annaly

31:34 What Whalen is watching next




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