David & Michael speak to Robert Lea, the industrial editor at The Times, who has been a financial and business journalist for the past three decades.

As we head towards a general election, and a likely change of government, Labour makes a U-turn on its £28bn green pledge, so what now for the UK's industrial strategy and climate credentials in the wider world?

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