Jeanniey Walden sits down with Alexander Gray, founder of Preimus, to trace the winding path from real estate and e-commerce to men’s skincare. This conversation is about reinvention, finding alignment between personal purpose and business, and why self-care for men is becoming more accepted.


Key topics



  • In this episode, Alex Gray shares how Preimus was built as a men’s skincare brand focused on helping people look and feel their best in everyday high-visibility moments, from Zoom calls to executive meetings.
  • Jeanniey and Alex revisit how they first met years ago in Las Vegas through the real estate world, then follow his path through martial arts, investment, e-commerce, and coaching.
  • Alex explains how his early desire to be a hero, combined with family expectations and later entrepreneurship, shaped the kind of work he is drawn to today.
  • He shares a 15-year run operating a martial arts school in Toronto and how that discipline still influences how he approaches business, resilience, and leadership.
  • In the episode, Alex breaks down the business lessons from real estate after 2008, especially short sales and spotting opportunities in distressed markets.
  • He discusses the rise of e-commerce in the mid-2010s, including his first store selling superhero-themed compression shirts, and how building brands awakened his creative side.
  • Alex introduces the idea of a “purple ocean” by referencing mentor Josh Snow, emphasizing the importance of carving out a niche that is both market-tested and personally meaningful.
  • We discuss who Preimus is for: men who want to take care of themselves without feeling like they are abandoning a masculine identity, especially executives, frequent travelers, and men who want a better first impression.
  • Alex says the first customers were often spouses buying for their husbands, which helped position the brand around gifting and permission rather than vanity.
  • He also shares how the company is using beef tallow and other simple skincare ingredients, pairing older wisdom with modern product positioning.
  • The conversation closes with Alex’s mindset for tough days: meditation, discipline, hard work, and not letting fear or worry take over the day.
  • Jeanniey also notes the brand is a fit for many households, and Alex reveals a special listener offer for the remainder of September.

Timestamps







  • (00:00) Warm welcome and why Alex Gray is back on the show
  • (00:33) How Jeanniey first met Alex in Las Vegas through real estate
  • (01:16) What Alex is building now with Preimus skincare
  • (02:02) Rewinding to childhood ambitions and early influences(03:38) Starting a martial arts school and building for 15 years
  • (04:06) Finding opportunity in the 2008 real estate crash
  • (05:02) E-commerce, superhero shirts, and learning brand building
  • (06:47) Do our early interests shape our later careers?
  • (08:26) How the Internet Marketing Association expanded his world
  • (09:24) Martial arts, coaching, and helping men during COVID(10:22) Translating coaching, content, and camera skills into business
  • (12:21) Why Preimus is a niche men’s skincare brand
  • (13:16) The brand story started two years ago and centered on formulation
  • (14:13) Who the customer is: executives, travelers, and men who want to look better
  • (15:38) Why gifting became an important customer path
  • (16:36) The “Marlboro man, minus the cigarettes” positioning
  • (17:35) Beef tallow, personal use cases, and proof from real men
  • (19:39) How skincare fits into the growing self-care ecosystem
  • (20:02) The one word behind the brand: permission
  • (21:12) Jeanniey plans to test the product at home
  • (22:23) How Alex handles tough days with meditation and discipline
  • (24:17) Bootstrapping, family responsibilities, and working around the clock
  • (26:15) Kindness, ancient ingredients, and helping customers feel better
  • (27:29) Why most worries never happen and waste time
  • (28:17) Fear, resolve, and not letting business anxiety take over
  • (29:17) Being methodical, emotional, and still moving forward
  • (30:15) Choosing not to let stress distort creative work
  • (31:04) Final reflections and thanks for sharing the journey
  • (31:39) Listener offer: 30 percent off with code “liftoff” through the end of September



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