Maye Musk has 18 grandchildren... but she says the best gifts aren’t the expensive ones.

Maye explains why she stopped buying elaborate presents, how she kept her children grounded despite financial struggles and the Musk family’s success, and why she believes “hugs count.” She also shares advice for Americans living paycheck to paycheck and discusses the habits that keep her healthy and happy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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