Ep. 107 – Cybersecurity and InSecurity // Jane Frankland

In this episode, James Maude sits down with Jane Frankland, MBE, founder of Newstart and author of the bestselling book InSecurity, whose career in cybersecurity spans nearly thirty years and began not in tech but in art and design. She shares the hard lessons learned building one of the UK's first penetration testing companies from the ground up. Reflects on how that experience shaped a book arguing that the absence of women in cybersecurity is a risk problem, not a diversity checkbox.Jane breaks down her framework, based on Maslow's hierarchy of needs, for why most security teams are chasing tools while ignoring leadership, culture and governance, and shares the surprising incompetence she has seen from seasoned practitioners in real world incident simulations. She also describes the motivation for her upcoming second book and why she believes cybersecurity has been solving the wrong problem all along.