What if anxiety isn’t something we need to eliminate—but something we can learn to understand and work with differently?

In this conversation, Fleet sits down with NeuroDynamic Breathwork creator Michael Stone to explore anxiety, embodiment, and the unconscious patterns that can shape the way we experience the world. Michael shares his own journey from an anxious childhood and a deep need for control to discovering the hidden belief that had been influencing his life for decades.

Together, they explore the difference between useful and debilitating anxiety, why uncertainty and a lack of perceived control can intensify fear, and how breathwork can bring us out of looping thoughts and back into the body. Michael also shares practical approaches using gratitude, breath, trust, and surrender—and explains why learning to experience difficult emotions rather than continually avoiding them can create greater confidence in our ability to meet life.


Memorable Quotes
“Anxiety lives in the future.” — Michael Stone
“Feel it so you can heal it.” — Michael Stone
“The two basic concepts…are trust and surrender.” — Michael Stone
“It really doesn’t take long to change your state.” — Michael Stone



Topics Discussed

  • Anxiety and uncertainty
  • Adaptive vs. maladaptive anxiety
  • Radical responsibility
  • Childhood conditioning
  • Unconscious beliefs
  • The need for control
  • Rumination and catastrophizing
  • Embodiment
  • The default mode network
  • Nervous system regulation
  • NeuroDynamic Breathwork
  • Holotropic Breathwork
  • Emotional suppression and release
  • Trust and surrender
  • Inner guiding intelligence
  • Gratitude
  • Breathwork and expanded states
  • Moving from fear toward inner trust
  • Building confidence in our ability to handle life
  • Present-moment awareness
  • Daily practices for changing our state

Resources Mentioned
NeuroDynamic Breathwork: Michael's breathwork approach combines connected breathing, music, embodiment, and a non-directive process. He explains that the longer online experience includes preparation, approximately an hour of breathing, and an integration/share period.
Free NeuroDynamic Breathwork Sessions
Michael offers free live online sessions through his website, with multiple sessions available throughout the month.
Holotropic Breathwork
Michael discusses his earlier training in Holotropic Breathwork and how his experiences with the modality ultimately contributed to the development of NeuroDynamic Breathwork.
Gratitude Practice
During the conversation, Michael guides Fleet through a brief embodied gratitude practice designed to shift attention, posture, breathing, and emotional state.


Connect with Michael Stone
Website:
https://breathworkonline.com

Free Breathwork Session:
https://breathworkonline.com/free

Michael says NeuroDynamic Breathwork offers approximately 20 live online sessions each month at different times and encourages people interested in the practice to experience a session for themselves.


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