The pod has a reasoned and illuminating back and forth on those occasions when a TV show has decided to go one more season even though what has gone before cannot be improved upon - they know who they are (The Wire, Line of Duty etc).

Flipping the theme, Simon reminds us of those shows that went too early, leaving fans begging for more - we don't know who they are (Wayne? Agent Carter? Surviving Jack?!)

And some egghead in the States has finally attained scientific proof that the perfect face exists, and it belongs to a hunky British actor - this enrages Simon to an inexplicable degree.

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