The recent effort by a FlyDubai co-pilot to crash his own plane is not the first case of its kind. In 2015, Germanwings co-pilot Andreas Lubitz flew a plane into the French Alps, killing 150 passengers. On this ep, we talk to pilot and journalist Jeff Wise, who met Lubitz’s friends and visited the crash site. Why do suicidal pilots sometimes become mass killers?

Read Jeff’s book: Fatal Descent: Andreas Lubitz and the Crash of Germanwings 9525

Check out Jeff’s podcast: Finding MH370

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