479: Stay in the Room: A Journey to Unconditionally Loving your Gay Child w/ Micheal & Jeff McLean - Latter Day Struggles | Lyssna här

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In this not-to-be-missed episode, Val interviews Michael McLean (of The Forgotten Carols and Mr. Kruger's Christmas) and his delightful son Jeff about a book they just co-wrote recounting their journey to unconditional love for self and one another in a religious tradition that still struggles to embrace the reality that the worth of EVERY soul (not just the married heterosexual soul!) is infinitely good, lovable, & 'enough'.

This conversation is candid, raw, and maybe as 'real' as anything that you've heard on Latter Day Struggles and it is the essence of why we do what we do here. We share conversations like Jeff's and Michael's to remind us that miracles of healing are possible as humans awaken to the real message of Jesus Christ: That love knows no limits.

In the next episode Val interviews therapist and colleague Brad Reedy, who contributes to Jeff and Michael's book. Don't miss these profound and touching episodes!

DON'T HIT STOP after the interview this week y'all! Please enjoy a beautiful original song written by Jeff McLean for his therapists and helpers along the way during his journey that led to the writing of Stay in the Room.

Timestamps:

00:00 Welcome and Guests

05:00 Jeff on Identity and Culture

10:18 Michael on Painful Truths

16:21 Jeff on Shame and Hiding

20:16 Host Therapy Framework

27:28 Michael Valley of Shadow

32:18 Temple Recommend Turning Point

40:33 Host Reframes the Journey

45:39 A Living Room Breakthrough

49:41 Houston Hotel Confrontation

55:12 Love Loud Safe Harbors