What would it feel like to go into labor fully prepared for your VBAC - and then have your baby flip breech in the middle of it? That's exactly what happened to Kathryn May, a VBAC Lab student and stay-at-home mom of two from Charlotte, NC.

After a traumatic first birth that ended in an unplanned C-section, Kathryn was determined to do things differently the second time around. She switched to a VBAC-supportive practice, brought her husband fully into the process, and walked into labor informed and ready. Things were progressing beautifully - until a routine check revealed something no one expected: baby James had flipped breech.

Kathryn's story isn't about getting the birth she planned. It's about what happens when you're prepared enough to handle it when the plan changes anyway - and still walk away feeling like you were part of every decision, confident, and empowered.

In this episode:

  • Why Kathryn's first C-section left her feeling like things were "happening to her" instead of with her
  • How to spot red flags with a provider who isn't truly VBAC-supportive (and why body language matters as much as their words)
  • Getting her husband trained as an active advocate, not just a bystander
  • The moment her midwife said, "I don't feel a head" - and what came next
  • How Kathryn made her unplanned C-section feel informed and participatory instead of traumatic
  • Why "you can refuse anything, but should you?" became her guiding question in the moment that mattered most


If Kathryn's story hit home for you - especially if your own birth didn't go the way you planned - be gentle with yourself. Whatever happened, you showed up, and that matters.

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Connect with Kathryn:

Follow her on Instagram @drkathrynmay

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Helpful Timestamps:

  • 00:00 VBAC Lab Student Birth Story
  • 01:56 First Birth C-Section
  • 05:26 Switching to Supportive Team
  • 10:45 Labor Begins at Home
  • 15:32 Baby is Breech
  • 18:09 Redemptive C-Section Plan
  • 20:16 Baby James Arrives
  • 26:36 Advice for VBAC Moms
  • 28:26 Why Education Matters


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