Join Russell Napier in conversation with FT journalist Robin Wigglesworth discussing his fascinating new book on the history of bonds – A Fabulous Debt: The Epic Story of How Bonds Built the Modern World.

Enjoy an entertaining and fact-packed gallop through the 400-year history of 'tradeable loans' – and hear about Robin's 'rock star' moment when he got to hold the world's oldest performing bond. Made from goatskin, it's still paying out interest four centuries on.

Produced by Fraser Allen

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