Today, we lock arms with Kathleen Johnson. A bold new voice in the C-Suite for Christ Speaker’s Bureau. She’s not here for lukewarm clichés. She’s not here to coddle you with soft words. She rips the lid off a topic the world hates—total surrender. No more self-reliance. No more “me first” Christianity.
Kathleen exposes the root of burnout, stress, and defeat—our refusal to let the Spirit rule. It’s counter-cultural. It’s costly. Because denying your flesh, letting God be Lord, isn’t just a slogan—it’s spiritual war.
The world mocks surrender. The flesh rebels against obedience. But the truth never changes. Jesus is still Lord—even when you’re tired. Even when you’re tempted to take the wheel back.
So what will you do when your soul demands the driver’s seat? Will you grab control—or lay it down? Your victory, your identity, your freedom—they’re found on the altar.
"Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me." –Luke 9:23
Episode Highlights
09:21 - It's not. It is an absolute curse. And let's make no mistake, we were dead in our transgressions and sins. And that is why the Lord spoke through the prophet Ezekiel to say, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you. This is exactly what we had to have. Why? Because our spirit was corrupt. It was beyond salvage. It had to go on the scrap heap.
12:36 - Because otherwise, it is a form of slavery. And here's a verse that we should all memorize. It is Romans 6:16. Don't you know that you're a slave to the one whom you obey, whether you're a slave to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? Someone who is obedient to the flesh is going to become more and more a slave to the flesh.
18:36 - Between obedience and disobedience, between freedom and slavery, from revelation knowledge, which is unlimited, and sense knowledge, which is extremely limited. This is the difference between deep intimacy with God, knowing Him, understanding Him, gazing on the beauty of the Lord, and being stuck where you feel alone.
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