Kelly Clarkson, a $15,000 mechanical bird and a Brooklyn hipster art shop owner: the celebrity feud we never knew we needed. This week, Gráinne and Chantal ask whether Kelly’s having her Pretty Woman moment or if this is her Ellen moment.

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