In this conversation, Charles and Dan unpack one of the most practical interviews they’ve ever heard on The Diary of a CEO—Steven Bartlett’s talk with body-language expert Vanessa Van Edwards.
Instead of vague “be confident” advice, this episode focuses on clear, actionable steps that make communication more intentional and effective.

They break down:

  • How warmth and competence shape every first impression
  • The body-language cues that build trust (and the ones that destroy it)
  • Why open posture and visible palms instantly change how people read you
  • The difference between uptalk and downtalk—and how Obama mastered it
  • What AirPods, small talk, and friendship say about modern connection
  • The subtle gestures that make others mirror and agree with you

If you’ve ever felt misunderstood, overlooked, or disconnected, this episode shows how to realign your physical cues with your intentions—and become someone people actually hear.


** The link I forgot to include to the YouTube video of Vanessa Van Edwards on The Diary of a CEO: https://youtu.be/VHUrdELKjDw?si=Co1Hxdn70PWjl9V1

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