What America Learned, Feared, and Forgot After 9/11
Former Trump White House security expert Elizabeth Neumann and theologian Russell Moore join Curtis Chang to consider whether America is safer—or simply more afraid—25 years after 9/11. They examine the war with Iran, immigration enforcement, domestic extremism, government overreach, and the church's complicity in fear-driven efforts. Together, they ask how Christians can confront legitimate threats without surrendering to fear, offering civic engagement, moral courage, and faithful "small refusals" to conform as a way forward.
03:14 - A 25-Year Review of Homeland Security
06:22 - A Theological View on "Homeland Security"
09:55 - How Do We Evaluate the War with Iran?
19:34 - Should Christians Trust the State?
24:01 - The Public's Disengagement from Government
28:54 - The Church's Role in Local Justice
33:59 - The Rise of Domestic Terrorism
40:52 - Is the Church Complicit in Fear Mongering?
42:29- Russell's Counsel for Pastors: Small Refusals
44:39 - The Personal Cost of Opposing Government Overreach
48:22 - When Lament and Hope Are the Same Thing
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