What happens when love, business, family, and personal growth are not separate lanes, but one life moving together?
In this episode of the RetreatBoss Podcast, Catherine Kontos sits down with Mike and Nathalia Chang for an honest, warm, and deeply human conversation about marriage, family, entrepreneurship, and the relationship behind Flow60.
Mike and Nathalia share how they built a life together through devotion, trust, and daily practice. They talk about traveling with their children, working together as co-founders, navigating conflict, and protecting their relationship while building a business with real impact.
This conversation is not the polished highlight reel of entrepreneurship. It is the tender, funny, sometimes chaotic truth of choosing each other again and again.
Inside this episode:
•How Mike and Nathalia build marriage, business, and family as one unit
•Why giving each other space can strengthen connection
The relationship lesson of letting people have their own experience
•How their “50/50” rule helps them make business decisions together
•Why being right matters less than protecting the relationship
What’s next for Flow60, including programs, certification, and global expansion
For couples, wellness entrepreneurs, retreat leaders, and anyone building a purpose-driven life with someone they love, this episode is a reminder that the strongest businesses are often built on the relationships we refuse to abandon.
Read the full cover story with Mike and Nathalia Chang in the latest issue of RetreatBoss Magazine:
https://retreatboss.com/magazine/
