This year's NATO summit in Turkiye is overshadowed by the Iran war. The U.S. wants allies to help it protect shipping in the vital waterway, but what are the risks?

In this episode: 

  • David Des Roches, Professor at Thayer Marshall Institute and former NATO Operations Director 
  • Alam Saleh, Senior Lecturer of Iranian Studies at Australian National University
  • Patrick Bury, Defense and Security Specialist at University of Bath and a former NATO analyst

Host: Adrian Finighan

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