After many years of correspondence and phone calls, I finally met Cas Mudde in person last year at the GLOBSEC Forum in Prague. Our meeting resulted in the 235th episode of The Global Agora podcast. This year, we crossed paths again. The result? Another round of conversation. This time about the sanewashing of US President Donald Trump, the threat of the far right, the normalization of Italian PM Giorgia Meloni, but also about the cancelation of The Late Show with Stephen Colbert. Cas Mudde is, of course, a professor at the University of Georgia and one of the world's foremost experts on populism and far-right politics. Listen to our conversation. And if you enjoy what I do, please support me on Ko-fi! Thank you. https://ko-fi.com/amatisak
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