For decades, British journalist and author Melanie Phillips has warned that Western civilization is abandoning the religious beliefs, moral assumptions, family structures, and national identities that made it possible in the first place. In this wide-ranging conversation, she joins Pesach and Doug to explain why she believes Britain is further down that road than America, why the rejection of biblical values has left the West increasingly unable to distinguish good from evil, and why there are still reasons for hope.
But at the heart of the conversation is Israel. Phillips argues that the West's obsession with condemning the Jewish state is not a side issue but a window into its deeper crisis. She explains why she sees anti-Zionism as an extension of Jew hatred, why Israel's willingness to defend itself provokes such fury, and why the West may ultimately need to rediscover Israel and the Jewish people in order to rediscover itself.
And despite everything, Phillips ends on an unexpectedly optimistic note: Israel, she says, is a society that still believes in faith, family, nation, children, and the future. The question is whether the rest of the West can learn to believe in itself again.
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