Georgia's been to Ibiza for "work," back to her mum's for buttery toast and zero phone signal, and left Cooper twice in one week, after he begged her not to go.


Kelsey reveals a secret brother nobody knew about, and the pair get into it over why Sienna Miller gets called "irresponsible" at 41 but Robert De Niro gets a free pass at 80.


This episode covers the big stuff:

  • Geriatric pregnancy labels
  • The double standards older mums face, perimenopause chat, and why women are judged no matter what they do
  • Plus the everyday chaos: kids who eat everything at school but "get the ick" about your dinner, eco homework ordered off Amazon, and watching Bluey alone with zero shame.


They also rank the top five things they miss about life before kids. Spoiler: freedom, sleep, and adults-only hotels make the cut.


Grab a cuppa and get comfy. This one's a good one.


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