Jay Gunkelman has read more than half a million brain scans โ and this week host Pete Jansons handed him one he refused to read. Working through the recording, Jay's verdict wasn't a diagnosis or an interpretation. It was simpler: "This isn't real. Do it again."
That kicks off a conversation with Jay and Dr. Mari Swingle about the thing that gets lost in all the excitement over brain maps: the interpretation is only as good as the recording underneath it. From the minimum standards most people skip, to the craft of pulling usable data off a squirming 4ยฝ-year-old, to why the best AI interpretation Jay has ever seen still only earns a C-minus โ this one is about what separates real EEG from "We Map Your Crap." Plus a bonus segment with Joshua Moore on QEEG phenotypes.
๐๏ธ Panel: Jay Gunkelman (500K+ brain scans), Dr. Mari Swingle (author, iMinds) โ host Pete Jansons.
๐ง WHAT WE COVER:
๐ง 0:00 โ Cold open: "This isn't real"
๐๏ธ 0:45 โ Welcome + Jay's October tuxedo / Suisun City Summit
โพ 3:29 โ The "knuckleball": Case 17 comes in
๐ซ 4:46 โ Why this EEG can't be interpreted
๐งน 5:23 โ "The name of the game isn't We Map Your Crap"
๐ 5:56 โ Minimum standards: calibration, impedance & the med-legal trap
๐ 12:52 โ 32 Hz glutamate beta vs. norepinephrine beta
โฑ๏ธ 15:16 โ Why a 2-minute EEG misses what matters
๐ง 22:14 โ The realities of recording an autistic 4ยฝ-year-old
๐ฆ 29:07 โ The rubber-ducky trick for recording kids
๐ 32:57 โ Bribery, treasure chests & getting cooperation
๐ชก 38:02 โ When EEG meant 21 needle electrodes
๐ 41:17 โ Dr. Mari on baseline EEGs & contact sports
๐ค 44:30 โ The best AI interpretation Jay's seen? A C-minus
๐ง 45:19 โ Dr. Mari's case for "assisted intelligence"
๐๏ธ 55:14 โ Did the DSM move the goalposts on EEG?
๐ 1:08:55 โ Support the show
๐ 1:09:40 โ Bonus: Joshua Moore on QEEG phenotypes
๐ Updates & Links:
๐ง Jay Gunkelman โ Suisun City Summit: https://suisuncitysummit.com
๐ School of Neurotherapy: https://www.schoolofneurotherapy.com
๐งฉ Joshua Moore โ Neurofeedback Care: https://neurofeedbackcare.com
๐ต Dr. Mari Swingle โ SwingleSonic apps: https://swinglesonic.com
โ ๏ธ Educational content only โ not medical advice.
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