Marcella is back with her favorite co-conspirator Ashlynn for a conversation that is equal parts hilarious, healing, and long overdue.

They were both raised in the Mormon church where sex was sacred, self-pleasure was a confessional offense, and your body was something to be managed, not enjoyed. So now that they're out? They've had to completely rebuild their relationship with one of the most natural things in the world.

The question on the table: is sex like salad nourishing, wholesome, good for you or is it like a donut indulgent, a little naughty, and something you still kind of feel guilty about after?

Spoiler: it's neither. It's both. It's the entire buffet.

They get into the programming that never fully goes away, the weird guilt that shows up even when you know better, and what it actually looks like to reclaim pleasure when you were taught it wasn't yours to have in the first place. It's raw, it's funny, and it's the kind of conversation that will make you feel a lot less alone.

Pull up a plate. This one's a full spread.

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