In this episode we take a slight detour from our main topic to discuss Nate’s experiences with farming in central Illinois. Hear Nate describe how he got into farming and how his experiences with animals have shaped the way he thinks about everything from diet to psychotherapy. You’ll hear Nate defend why he is virulently "pro-savanna" and discuss how living in a sustainable ecosystem allows for regular experiences of abundance, as well as staying close to the cycle of life and death. And yes, we do discuss how sustainable farming does fit neatly within the psychedelic experience.

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