In this episode of The Builder Series, we sit down with a two-time founder behind Ontic and now CenterSeat.ai to unpack what it takes to build in a complex, misunderstood market. From early mistakes and hard lessons to navigating fundraising, co-founder dynamics, and product-market fit, this conversation is a candid look at the realities of entrepreneurship in the risk and resilience space.

If you’re building, or thinking about it, this is a grounded perspective on what it takes to go from operator to founder and build something that actually works.

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