#43 Chatter (Ethan Kross, 2021)

This week Luke interviews Will on his recent read of Chatter by Ethan Kross. We cover the key concepts of what mental chatter is, why we have it and the ways it can backfire. Then we get into some really practical strategies to combat it. A great read.   

Hope you enjoy. 

Will & Luke  

00:00 Introductions 

01:00 What is chatter 

03:45 Why we have chatter  

11:00 When talking to ourselves backfires (and discernment) 

17:00 Zooming out  

21:45 Temporal Distancing and Narrative writing  

24:00 The role of perspective, CBT and compassion  

30:45 The power and peril of other people. Utilising others to address chatter. Co-rumination trap 

38:00 Tools that involve others which lower chatter temperature  

41:30 Outside in - environmental supports for chatter. Voluntary and involuntary attention.  

44:45 The shrinking of the self  

49:30 Benefits of creating order (also rituals) 

52:00 Placebo effect  

54:30 Final reflections and summary   

Find the book at: https://www.ethankross.com/ 

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