In 2026, Bitcoin treasury stocks have taken a much bigger beating than Bitcoin itself. Dylan LeClair, Director of Bitcoin Strategy at Metaplanet, joins me from to explain why he thinks the bears got carried away.

In this episode:

  • Why treasury company stocks fell so much further than Bitcoin did
  • His response to the criticism Parker Lewis brought to this show about perpetual preferred equitites
  • What Metaplanet is building in Japan, where $7 trillion sits in cash earning nothing
  • Whether he thinks Bitcoin has bottomed, from someone who swore off price calls

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